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Modern Unions should be outlawed. They are so corrupt and so entitled and are the main cause of the loss of many manufacturing industries in first world countries. They make everything much much more expensive to produce and make employees into lazy entitled assholes.
Yes I realise Unions were once important to gain decent employee safety and working conditions. But those were met in first world countries more than 50 years ago. These days Unions are just leeches making things worse for all.
Tell all the coworkers about the OT laws being broken and watch the company fold as it pays out a boatload of money to everyone they were screwing over
Story 1: The direct orders were from OP's supervisors who are over Health & Safety…the plant manager would not be able to over-rule that as they are not under his purview.
Story 5: They violated labor laws and they abused their workers but they don't want you to tell the workers that? It would be my 1st order of business when leaving that meeting.
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With the break time problem, not all departments within a plant report to the plant manager some of them report directly to corporate, HR being a very common one for that situation
Story 2: I actually got to do this once, while I worked retail my boss thought I was replaceable so I took 2 weeks vacation (with union confirmation) and on my last day before my vacation, gave my 2 week notice, my boss was shocked and said stuff like "we need you" I just smiled and watch that place struggle for two weeks, my co workers were lazy and was a jack of all trades golden goose
Story 1: I think it's because it would go against the union regulations, because if you're putting like that, it's implying that their forcing their employees to work without a break their entitled to, and if he forced to work without a break, the union would be up his hide and down his throat, for going against the union rules, if they say employees have a 30 minute break, you damn well give them that break.
Story1: Wow. All the supervisors go on break during a major incident. Refuse to answer phones, no backup. Exactly what use are these people?
First story: Strange the Plant Manager was shoveling but the supervisors were off enjoying their hour lunch.
the entire set of managers should never leave at the same time
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Yup String Cheese my favorite.
Yep, the petty a**holes who demand you get their permission before something like the moving the break thing ARE the same a**holes who refuse others the ability to contact them. Those Supervisors got off easy.
Depending on safety concerns the plant manager may not be able to override the supervisors
I’m really tired today is over. It’s 3:30 pm and I’m already in Bed with a hot toddy!
thanks Rob!!! Hope you had a wonderful day today also!!! <3
The director in story 3 was very un-Wyse in his dealings.
Wife is an engineer for a production plant that is owned by 3 different companies and crap like this happens all the time. The plant manager may run things but he is only in charge of the group that are employed by the same company he is employed by over all. It’s like having divorced parents with a random 3rd wheel parent. Odds are this is the case in the first story so the plant manager can’t control what happens in that department without permission from the owning companies
Hey Rob I make resin dice and have been dumping my extra resin into a "solo" type cup. I know you make pens from pen blanks. Would you like this cup of multi colored resin for your pens?
Our union rules did not allow for any management to give us jobs, except our direct supervisors, not even the plant manager. In my shop, the union would have raked this plant manager over the coals just for helping.
In the first story, that’s when you look right at them and tell them then you do it from now on since you seem to know everything and think you can do everything. Believe me it shuts them up instantly. I did that all the time and was almost always left alone after that.
The first story sounds legitimate. I've worked in places where a plant manager/facilities manager is strictly in charge of physical things like the building, supplies, machinery, etc. That they could work along side us but we answered to the supervisor. The supervisor was the go between the lower employees and the upper plant manager. Sometimes worked smoothly, other times caused a nightmare of problems.
Got the students to take terminals apart? Some of them probably went on to engage in garbage disposal and recycling as careers.
OP 1 was union at the time. There are a lot of politics involved in that. Was Plant Manager union? Maybe Plant Manager wasn't a part of OP's supervisory scheme because of union rules? Maybe union rules said that the direct supervisors had to agree to such a change?
Re: scheduled break compliancy and the comment that the plant manager was able to approve to override the situation. This only depends on the union contract along with the setting of the managerial hierarchy, the plant manager may not have had the ability. Just a note.
First story sounds like they fall under safety which means not even the CEO of the company could override especially where EPA and OSHA regulations are in play. Especially given they are cleaning up what would be classified as a hazardous material spill, therefore the plan manager has no real power. Could be wrong and reading into it too much but that is litterally one of the only ways the supervisor trumps the plant manager.
Good afternoon Rob
Happy Hump Day everyone
It could be a contractor situation. Plants with contractors are tricky because the plant manager is not technically part of THEIR chain of command, but can change the contract
Stuck under a cat again and now I have something good to listen to while I pet Loki and wait for him to decide it’s time to move.
First story: Plant manager was pissed at what the stupidmisers, I mean supervisors, did, so WANTED a valid reason to lay into them.
In my hurry to comment I almost unsubscribe! Crisis averted, have a wonderful day Rob, and thanks for the contact.